Got these from a regular customer at my local auto parts store. I went in there asking for some 6 volt bulbs and this dirty bearded old timer back in the oil section says, apparently to no one in particular, "What do ya'll need 6 volt stuff for?". So I say "An old Ford". He says he'll be back in an hour, and he was. He left these for me with the counter fellas and says if I need anymore to give him a call because he has about a hundred of 'em. Needless to say, I got his number from them.